Top 5 Meme

[itsnotmymind]

Borrowing this one from kikimay.

Ask me what my top five is of anything.

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[manic-padagirl.livejournal.com]

Top five of characters in Supernatural.

[kikimay]

Top 5 Buffyverse ladies

[itsnotmymind.livejournal.com]

1. Sam Winchester. Does it need to be said? Ever since the time he started drinking demon blood and killing demons with his mind, my heart has belonged to first and foremost to Sam. And I was pretty fond of the guy before then, too.

2. Dean Winchester. Dean's easier to "get" then Sam...sometimes a little too easier, I think. But Dean, spending his life playing out roles that he both resents and doesn't know how to live without...most definitely my #2.

3. Ruby. My girl Ruby. I liked her right from the start, and was never shaken from my high opinion. I love her relationship with Sam, the intense relation they have that was never based on love. I love her single-minded pursuit of her goal, and the courage, people-skills, and stubbornness by which she achieves. I am of the opinion that she really did come to care about Sam, and I love that this never once caused her to falter in her ambition. She didn't doubt that this was in his best interests.

4. Amy Pond. My favorite one-shot character. Like many fans, I have strong feelings about Dean's choice to kill her, but I think the amount of controversy surrounding her death distracts from what a complicated character she was when she was alive. As a teenager, she kills her abusive monster to protect a boy she barely knows. As an adult, she kills strangers to save her dying child. She does everything in her power to live without killing, but she ultimately chooses survival, and chooses the life of her son over her morality. As a girl, she claimed she was comfortable being a "freak". As an adult, her eagerness to be "normal" takes the form of classism. So much fascinating potential, and all that in one episode.

5. Gadreel. While my first four characters came easily, I had to think awhile for this one. But Gadreel, my most favorite of the angels, is going to be #5. Gadreel made many skeevy choices during S9, but he never lost my sympathy. His quest to redeem himself for an unbearable past shame was an echo of Sam's (something Sam himself likely recognized, since he was so quick to trust Gadreel at the slightest acknowledgement of remorse). Yet the skeeviness and finally horror of the choices Gadreel makes while trying to achieve his "redemption" reveal Gadreel to be cold and inhuman. And yet, he is never evil in his goals.

[itsnotmymind.livejournal.com]

Okay, this was hard. The first two were easy, though.

1. Buffy Anne Summers. 'Nuff said.

2. Faith. Faith is really just an amazing character. Bad-ass and vulnerable, capable of being both cruel and selfish, and altruistic. She's possible the most sensual characters I've seen on television, and I'm not just talking about how sexual she is (although that is part of it). People love quoting the "hungry and horny" line, but I think they forget to put any wait on the "hungry" part. I would most definitely have liked to see more Faith.

3. Willow Rosenberg. I don't know where the Buffyverse would be without Willow Rosenberg. She's an adorable geek whose dark side is not prettified. She's a powerful witch who never forgets who she is. I have found her both highly unlikeable and utterly identifiable, and ultimately I love her.

4. Drusilla. Of all the major characters, she is the one who the most out of the story. She knows more than anyone, but does not seem to have much power to affect the future, nor does she expect to. She's in her own universe, almost. Her backstory is horrifying - she's the ultimate victim, in SPN terms the Sam who did "turn into something I am not" - but the vampire Drusilla became is neither designed by Angel and Darla, nor controlled by them.

5. Tough call between Darla, Harmony, and Cordelia. Cordelia would be a definite win if she's hadn't gone downhill on Angel. BtVS and early AtS Cordelia was a smart, deep woman who played at being shallow to succeed socially. Her mean streak, however, was the real thing. Later, she became bland and two dimensional, and then there was the Jasmin arc. Harmony, by contrast, only got better. She's not bright, and she murders people, but she's both funny and easy to empathize with. And then there's Darla, the matriarch of the fanged four, who had possibly the most complicated quasi-redemption arcs of either show. You know, I'm not choosing between them. Deal :).

[kikimay]

I HEAR YOU

People love quoting the "hungry and horny" line, but I think they forget to put any wait on the "hungry" part

Yes!

Her backstory is horrifying - she's the ultimate victim, in SPN terms the Sam who did "turn into something I am not" - but the vampire Drusilla became is neither designed by Angel and Darla, nor controlled by them.

Yes, yes!!

Her mean streak, however, was the real thing.

OH JESUS YES! They ruined Cordelia SO BADLY, when they chose to erase a part of her characterization. A part that used to make her funny and challenging as a character. Forever stanning for BtVS S3 Cordelia Chase.

(Also yes, Darla and Harmooonica!)

[itsnotmymind.livejournal.com]

I meant to say "they forget to put any weight" not "wait". *headdesk"

Cordelia Chase was my favorite character in early Buffy. But I feel like the writers lost who she was sometime during the course of AtS.

[frelling-tralk.livejournal.com]

I was going to say top five Supernatural episodes, but that seems a bit too broad after this many seasons lol. So how about top five SPN episodes from season 6?

[itsnotmymind.livejournal.com]

Can do! However, I have to admit this was a tough one for me...because I really don't like S6. I like a lot of the ideas in S6: Soulless Sam, Lisa and Ben. But Lisa and Ben was botched every step of the way, Soulless dragged, Castiel and Bobby are deeply not my thing, and Crowley is so very much not my thing that I could not put it into words. I don't like Westerns, The French Mistake felt like one long and not very-funny inside joke, and a lot of the episodes really bothered me for gender reasons. Which is a tad hypocritical of me, since I quite adore many TV episodes with rampant sexism, but for some reason it bothered me more in SPN S6. *shrugs* I make no claims to fairness in my episode preferences.

Anyway, here's what's left:

1. Let It Bleed
It's a decent episode overall, but it makes #1 for the end. Dean's decision to mindwipe Lisa and Ben was executed perfectly, and will in keeping with who Dean is (particularly the part where Dean makes a choice that at first glance seems like it will make Lisa and Ben safer, but in fact at second glance obviously just puts them in greater danger). Lack of follow-up was predictable yet frustrating...still. It was good for what it was.

2. Clap Your Hands If You Believe
Soulless Sam is hilarious. "Absolutely! But couldn’t I just do all that and have sex with the hippie chick?" Soulless Sam trying to make sense of Winchester family values. Priceless That said, I don't like the rape jokes. Or rather, it's not so much that I'm opposed to jokes that involve rape as that I am proposed to the fact the male rape is referenced repeatedly in the episode and it is always, always treated in a humorous fashion. That is not OK.

3. Unforgiven
Souled Sam trying to come to terms with his actions as soulless, with Dean in protective mode. I also like the soulless' necessary-but-ruthless decision to kill everyone tends out to be a bad, bad call. I'm always extremely wary of necessary-but-ruthless decisions, and the way the media romanticizes them.

4. And Then There Were None
And now we're getting down to the dregs. My main issue with this episodes is Rufus' death. When I saw him highlighted in the previouslies, I knew he was dead. SPN last the shock power of killing secondary characters long before S6 - especially the handful of black secondary characters. On a more positive note, trapping a bunch of characters who aren't all friends in a dangerous situation where they can't leave is always a fun premise. For me, though, Sam killing his grandfather and namesake was the highlight of the episode. Iffy and ambiguous...especially since Samuel wasn't being that threatening. Wonder if there's any fanfic that has explored Sam and Samuel's relationship...

5. The Man Who Knew Too Much
Far from my favorite season finale, but I find Sam's internal drama interesting. Robin is just likeable enough that when we found out what happened to her, I cared more than just in general horror. Sam killing her is really memorable - and brings home exactly what soulless was.