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Title: Christmas After Tommy
Fandom: Torchwood
Warnings: None
Summary: Tosh remembering Tommy, Owen being surprisingly sensitive
Disclaimer: I do not own these characters

Christmas After Tommy )
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I remember when I first started watching CoE, way back when, I was disappointed that the show was not going to deal with mourning Tosh and Owen. Then, as I gradually realized where the miniseries was going, I realized there simply wasn't space in this story to address mourning Tosh and Owen. And I accepted that.
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I really appreciate that Torchwood tells stories of aliens being abused by humans. Tosh even calls Jack on their own mistreatment of a weevil in Combat.
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I've often seen this one listed as the best Torchwood season one episode, and with the one complaint that Tosh is extremely neglected, I would agree.

One thing that struck me this time is the all three of the out-of-time people choose to leave - against the wishes of the Torchwood person who had bonded with them (I'd forgotten how much Gwen does NOT want Emma to go to London). It's the nature of their leaving that is very, very different for each one.
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Just finished re-watching Greeks Bearing Gifts, and it's my favorite episode so far. I seem to recall in the past I considered it my favorite in all of season 1, I'll probably still feel that way. It has flaws - some terrible lines, and a lot of the handling of Mary's character is pretty skeevy. But I feel for Tosh in this episode more than I've felt for any character up to this point.

I'm sure I've said this before, but Gwen at the telling Tosh that she's not in a position to make judgments is a strong contrast to the fannish image of Gwen as completely hypocritical about her own flaws. I don't know how common that image still is, but back when I first watched Torchwood it was ubiquitous.
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In Countrycide, we learn Tosh had a friend who caught hepatitis from a burger from a mobile snack van. I'm guessing this was before she worked for Torchwood - she seems pretty isolated now.

She later says, "I haven't met a cell yet I couldn't get out of." Someone online suggested she developed that skill after her imprisonment by UNIT, so she wouldn't be in that situation again. Works for me!

On a politics note: We did it. We did it. Thank God.
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And in Day One we learn Tosh has at least one ex she wouldn't mind getting revenge on.

Also, this episode is terrible.
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I re-watched the first Torchwood episode, and it has been brought to my attention that not only is Tosh a Dickens fan, but specifically A Tale of Two Cities fan.

I hated that book.

In fairness it has been years and I can't recall why I hated it, but I definitely hated it!
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- Theories and/or headcanons (whether silly or serious or a bit of both - and yes, you can totally do this for closed canons)

BtVS - During the period in early S7 when Spike was staying with Xander and he and Buffy were not speaking, Spike ran into Clem in a bar. Clem revealed that Buffy had brought Dawn to Spike after Spike had left - after the attempted rape. Spike was stunned.

- Unpopular opinions (this doesn't need to be fandom specific)

SPN - When Sam went to college, I don't think he left Dean/cut off contact with Dean. Rather I think Dean, forced to choose between his father and brother, chose his father, and that led to a mutual estrangement between him and Sam.

- Characters you wish canon had done better by

Torchwood - I <3 Toshiko Sato, but I wish canon had done better by her. I wish she'd had more stories focused on her, and more stories not about her love life.

- Characters you think the canon creators liked too much

SPN - Crowley, Bobby, and Castiel
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From [livejournal.com profile] rogueslayer452

Rules: name your top 10 favorite characters from 10 different fandoms and then tag 10 people.

01. Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) (Oh, I wrote a post about this, old but still relevant)
02. Dr. Owen Harper (Torchwood) (I also wrote a post about this)
03. Jessica Jones (Jessica Jones) (Trish is a close second)
04. Sam Winchester (Supernatural) (Can't remember exactly when he became my favorite, but I realized it watching It's A Terrible Life for the first time)
05. Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist) (I've just started watching, so this will likely change, but right now I love Ed because he is difficult)
06. Deth (The Riddlemaster-Trilogy) (I love these books and so few people have actually read them.)
07. Matt Murdock/Daredevil (Marvel Comics) (After a brief flirtation with the Human Torch I settled on Matt Murdock as my favorite Marvel character)
08. Karolina Dean (Runaways) (Definitely my favorite in the comics, and I think she's my favorite on the show as well)
09. Leo McGarry (The West Wing) ("I take a bullet for the President. He doesn't take one for me.")
10. Renee Montoya (Gotham Central) (A comic series about police officers in Batman's city)

I'm not tagging anyone. Consider yourself tagged if you want to me.
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For fun, I decided to assign the five members of Torchwood Cardiff (Jack, Gwen, Owen, Tosh, and Ianto) to the zodiac signs most applicable to their personalities. This entirely based on personality, not on any hints we might receive about their birth dates.

Owen Harper is easy—he’s such an Aries. Charges his way through life without thinking of the consequences. He is very much a fire sign. Not Leo, because he doesn’t care if people like him. Not a Sagittarius, because he doesn’t have the philosophical attitude toward life.

Gwen is also pretty obvious: Leo. Gwen wants to be liked, wants attention, and yeah, she has that passion.

Toshiko requires a bit of thinking, but I’m quite sure she’s a Pisces. Pisces are very sensitive to emotions. Something tripped me up for a moment: Pisces are supposed to be creative. Tosh is a tech person—not something you typically associate with creativity. And then I remembered her origin in Fragments: She’s also a brilliant inventor, something you definitely need creativity for. Tosh may not be a traditional Pisces, but it’s definitely her sign.

Jack I also had to think about. He has some Sagittarius traits, some Scorpio traits, so many Leo traits that I might define him as Leo if I was exclusively dealing with his Doctor Who characterization. Counting Torchwood canon, I named him Capricorn. Because he likes to be liked, but it’s not essential to his being. Because he is this steely thread of determination that runs through everything he does. This is a man who waited over a hundred years for the Doctor, who lived life on earth to the fullest while never losing sight of his original goal, ready to drop everything in an instant. I think he is a Capricorn: Ambitious, determined, sensual.

And then there is Ianto. Such a classic Virgo in his neatness, and such a classic Scorpio in his secretiveness. I just can’t make up my mind.

Ten Years

Jan. 20th, 2019 11:55 am
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This year it has be ten years since I first started watching several TV shows that are very important to me: Firefly, Torchwood, Buffy, and Angel.
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11 Torchwood Icons, mostly from season two.

Icon table generated with [livejournal.com profile] sql_girl's icon table generator.

Feel free to take, just comment and credit.

Outside the government, beyond the police )
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Brian Jacques was the fantasy author who turned me on to fantasy novels. I was eight - I haven't read a book of his in years, but there was a time when I read his Redwall books repeatedly. Despite his intended audience of children, he was quite the character killer. No book finished without at least one major sympathetic character dead. I shed so many tears over his books. I learned, then, how good it feels to cry over a story.

Because you're breaking my heart )
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I spent this morning thinking about hurtful lines from my favorites TV shows. Things that characters say to the people they love that are devastating. I picked out my current favorites from each of my favorite TV shows (Torchwood, Buffy, Supernatural, Jessica Jones). I'm sure there's particularly devastating lines that I've forgotten, but here's what I have now:
Ow )
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Sometimes I will see fans talk about how they liked it when a fictional character is a jerk "for no reason". That seems an odd thing to say - everyone has their reasons for their behavior and choices.

I saw someone make that statement about Torchwood's Owen Harper. They didn't like his Fragments backstory, the revelation that he had a fiancée who died, because it gave him a reason for being a jerk.

Now this struck me as odd, because for me, Owen's fiancée's death did not in anyway explain his particular brand of assholishness. In fact, the main reason that I dislike his Fragment backstory is that I struggle to see in S1 Owen the Owen we saw in the flashbacks in Fragments. It doesn't fit, for me. Sure, people can become unpleasant after the death of a loved one. But to go from being a devoted fiancée to the cynical, unloving and unlovable Owen of S1 is not explainable only by the death of a loved one. People who lose loved ones do not react that way from the death of a loved one alone. The equation of human nature is not as simple as: Bad thing happens to person -> person becomes unpleasant.

Which leads me back to the "jerk with no reason" description. Since every has reasons for their behavior, what is actually being said here? It seems the only thing that counts as a "reason" is suffering. Someone who is a jerk with a reason is someone who has suffered in a way that the fan deems sufficient to justify or explain - or possibly sanctify - his assholishness.

And that leaves me with kind of bad taste in my mouth.
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TV shows the give me feelings of visceral horror:

Jessica Jones is really, really, the worst in terms of a single character. Torchwood Children of Earth is also very awful, but it’s the whole situation rather than what’s happening to one character that really gets to me. One of the most horrifying moments of Jessica Jones, to me, is when Kilgrave tells her he’ll leave Malcolm alone if she sends him pictures herself. Somehow the fact that he’s asking for selfies, not nudes, just makes it creepier. He has this much control over her, and she has no real choice but to go along with it. And if she doesn’t do it at the right time, he gives implied threats.

Two others that I find very horrifying are Sam Winchester (in Supernatural seasons 3, 4, parts of 5, and the first half of 7, specifically), and Drusilla from Buffy. Drusilla’s situation is more horrifying than Sam’s, but Sam’s is visceral for me as much if not more because he’s a protagonist and we get a stronger sense of his experiences, and also because I love him more.

There’s really no redeeming factor to Dru’s story. People have tried to find it. I've heard argued that the redeeming factor of Drusilla’s story is that she is happy, when Angel gave her eternal life in order to punish her forever. That may be true, but it seems very, very tiny considering that she has become the very “evil thing” that she was desperate to avoid. Another fan, after pointing out accurately that Dru can’t be a survivor because she’d dead, argued that Dru was…I don’t remember her exact wording, but because Dru just existed. Continued. She remains Drusilla.

Except she wasn’t always Drusilla. We don’t know her human name, but if it was Drusilla I’ll eat my hats. Whoever that girl was, perhaps she wasn’t completely and utterly destroyed, she does still exist as that monster, but she was transformed into the thing she least wanted to be. There is no redemption for her.

And that’s horrifying.

And yet...maybe those fans aren't so wrong. Drusilla is dead, to be sure - but also not. She still exists. She’s not miserable. Angel has turned her into what he wanted her to be. He made her, he designed her. She was, indeed, his art.
But she’s not…she’s not forced, not anymore. She makes her own decisions. “I could pick the wisest and bravest knight in all the land - and make him mine forever with a kiss.” And she does.

She’s insane. Angel and Darla made her insane. They took her sanity and they made her a monster - but they don’t control her. She’s not a prisoner. She’s a very different being now, she’s the “thing” she didn’t want to be. What happened to her was not her choice. As others have pointed out, Dru is the only one of the fanged four who does not get some form of redemption…because she does not need redemption. She’s a victim. An eternal victim.

Dru is a monster, but she is a monster who makes her own decisions about what to do. Angel and Darla can’t, for example, keep her from vamping Darla again. She’s the monster, now, and they are the victims. Dru is out of her mind, but her insanity is hers. She has visions and she says things that make no sense and Angel and Darla can never understand. She’s a Cassandra who has no desire to be understood. She loves. She loves “quite well. If not wisely.” She’s not the young woman who begged Angel to help her be good. And yet…"In the end, we all are who we are, no matter how much we may appear to have changed." Drusilla is her own being, her own independent agent.
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Title: The Evening After
Fandom: Torchwood
Summary: Tosh after Mary
Disclaimer: I don’t own Toshiko

The Evening After )
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I'm rewatching Torchwood season one for the first time in several years. I'm half an hour into Cyberwoman, and have some thoughts:

1. S1 has been better than I remembered so far...but not Cyberwoman. I think I'm going to walk away with my same opinion: Worst TV episode that I have ever watched in full.

2. Watching the episode, Eve Myles is so much more talented than Gareth David Lloyd that it grates.

3. Lisa's revealing outfit is unnecessary and gross. The way doctor inappropriate feeling up of her is unbelievably unnecessary and gross.

4. Ianto and Lisa have no chemistry. None at all. The episode would have a shot at being decent if they had chemistry.

5. Ianto does have a bit of chemistry with Jack - and I'm convinced they're already sleeping together. Jack has a gun to Ianto's head demanding to know why Ianto put them all in huge danger. Ianto retorts by accusing Jack of not caring about him on a personal level - and Jack is moved enough by this to put the gun away. They must have been sleeping together. Exchange doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

6. We get no sense of Lisa as a person. I recall being irritated at fandom for usually only caring about Lisa in terms of how she affected Ianto's relationship with Jack...but I can kinda get where they are coming from.
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If I were to be asked about my favorite TV shows, I would number four - not as my favorites, but as the ones that meant the most to me at the time I first saw them. In the order that I fell in love with them these shows are: Torchwood, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Supernatural, and Jessica Jones.

For each these shows, I naturally have favorite characters: Dr. Owen Harper, Buffy Anne Summers, Sam Winchester, and Jessica Jones herself (though Trish is a damn close second). Liking the type of shows that I like, all these characters have killed people (and/or people-like beings). Naturally, I feel the need to name my favorite kill for each character.

Spoilers for all four shows )

You know what else is fun? Naming my favorite villain of each show! So:

Again with the spoilers )

*Yes, I'm a Buffy/Spike shipper. What's your point?

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