Killers and Villains
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If I were to be asked about my favorite TV shows, I would number four - not as my favorites, but as the ones that meant the most to me at the time I first saw them. In the order that I fell in love with them these shows are: Torchwood, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Supernatural, and Jessica Jones.
For each these shows, I naturally have favorite characters: Dr. Owen Harper, Buffy Anne Summers, Sam Winchester, and Jessica Jones herself (though Trish is a damn close second). Liking the type of shows that I like, all these characters have killed people (and/or people-like beings). Naturally, I feel the need to name my favorite kill for each character.
1. This one's easy. I fell in love with Owen when I saw the season one finale for the first time. Owen shot Jack THREE TIMES. I thought, "Wow, Owen is crazier than I thought. I love him!" He was my favorite from then on.
Favorite kill: Jack Harkness.
2. For all that I'm a later seasons girl, I have to go back to S2 for this one. “Now that's everything, huh? No weapons... No friends... No hope. Take all that away... and what's left?” “Me.” I still think the kiss is the grossest kiss I've ever seen on television. And I know that TECHNICALLY Angel didn't die. But nonethless, Buffy stabbed the love of her life* and sent him to Hell. That's hardcore. Badass, and hardcore, and it scars her for the rest of the series - and undoubtedly the rest of her life.
Favorite kill: Angel.
3. “I'm stronger than that now. Now I can kill.” Dean is unconscious, Castiel is about to be sent back to heaven against his will, and who comes in to own the situation? Oh, yeah. Also, the demon blood reveal! It’s not a coincidence that the very next episode was when I realized my love for Dean had been surpassed. Favorite kill: Alastair.
4. I’m pretty sure she only ever made one kill. But undoubtedly, a great one. That neck snap was a long time in coming, and the game she played in getting him closer to her was excellent. Favorite kill: Kilgrave.
You know what else is fun? Naming my favorite villain of each show! So:
1. The politicians in Children of Earth. Terrifyingly realistic, and just sympathetic enough to really scare me.
2. The fanged four. It may be cheating to name them all, but I cannot choose. Most badass vampires in the history of badass vampires (okay, so I am not familiar with even a large percentage of of the history of badass vampires, but I enjoy my hyperbole).
3. My girl Ruby. She played the long game, and she won.
4. Pretty much no choice with this one. Maybe there are people out there who like evil Captain America best…but I think they are very much in minority. Kilgrave is just that great.
*Yes, I'm a Buffy/Spike shipper. What's your point?
For each these shows, I naturally have favorite characters: Dr. Owen Harper, Buffy Anne Summers, Sam Winchester, and Jessica Jones herself (though Trish is a damn close second). Liking the type of shows that I like, all these characters have killed people (and/or people-like beings). Naturally, I feel the need to name my favorite kill for each character.
1. This one's easy. I fell in love with Owen when I saw the season one finale for the first time. Owen shot Jack THREE TIMES. I thought, "Wow, Owen is crazier than I thought. I love him!" He was my favorite from then on.
Favorite kill: Jack Harkness.
2. For all that I'm a later seasons girl, I have to go back to S2 for this one. “Now that's everything, huh? No weapons... No friends... No hope. Take all that away... and what's left?” “Me.” I still think the kiss is the grossest kiss I've ever seen on television. And I know that TECHNICALLY Angel didn't die. But nonethless, Buffy stabbed the love of her life* and sent him to Hell. That's hardcore. Badass, and hardcore, and it scars her for the rest of the series - and undoubtedly the rest of her life.
Favorite kill: Angel.
3. “I'm stronger than that now. Now I can kill.” Dean is unconscious, Castiel is about to be sent back to heaven against his will, and who comes in to own the situation? Oh, yeah. Also, the demon blood reveal! It’s not a coincidence that the very next episode was when I realized my love for Dean had been surpassed. Favorite kill: Alastair.
4. I’m pretty sure she only ever made one kill. But undoubtedly, a great one. That neck snap was a long time in coming, and the game she played in getting him closer to her was excellent. Favorite kill: Kilgrave.
You know what else is fun? Naming my favorite villain of each show! So:
1. The politicians in Children of Earth. Terrifyingly realistic, and just sympathetic enough to really scare me.
2. The fanged four. It may be cheating to name them all, but I cannot choose. Most badass vampires in the history of badass vampires (okay, so I am not familiar with even a large percentage of of the history of badass vampires, but I enjoy my hyperbole).
3. My girl Ruby. She played the long game, and she won.
4. Pretty much no choice with this one. Maybe there are people out there who like evil Captain America best…but I think they are very much in minority. Kilgrave is just that great.
*Yes, I'm a Buffy/Spike shipper. What's your point?
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Date: 2016-09-11 07:52 am (UTC)re: Kilgrave, back when Jessica Jones aired, well, was put on Netflix, I came to the conclusion that he might also be the best current MCU villain, full stop. That's because the movies don't have very good ones, and while Fisk on Daredevil is three dimensional, Kilgrave has the edge in that the very thing so terrifying about good old Kevin is how plausible he is, and that he doesn't want to rule the world, or even the city. Why should he? He has all the creature comforts and none of the administrative trouble his way anyway. That he ruins people's lives so devastatingly without any grandiose goal but just with every day selfishness enabled with a supernatural gift, and the result of what happens when you let a child discover he can make everyone do anything.
Not to get nitpicky, but Jessica kills Luke's wife and that's rather a big plot point. :) But yeah, Kilgrave's death was terrific in build up and, well, execution.
*hasn't got Owen icon anymore and thus uses David Tennant icon not showing him as the Doctor*
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Date: 2016-09-11 01:16 pm (UTC)Every now and then I still toy with a post CoE story where Jack leaves Earth only to discover he's stuck with Owen's ghost (and vice versa) due to the surrection glove having used Jack's energy after all.
I think I saw you mention that before, and that is a great story idea.
Those are all great Jack and Owen scenes.
A friend of mine said she stopped watching Jessica Jones because Kilgrave got to be too much for her, but I never felt that way. Perhaps because he does seem so understandable. His murders can be disturbingly creative, but as he himself points out, he doesn't do it because he enjoys murdering people. He just wants his way. And unlike most people, he has the power to get it.
Not to get nitpicky, but Jessica kills Luke's wife and that's rather a big plot point. :)
But that wasn't her fault! Kilgrave made her do it! I don't think Luke even blamed her for it...just the part where, y'know, she failed to mention it during the whole period they were sleeping together and falling in love. I don't count kills under mind control.
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Date: 2016-09-16 12:33 am (UTC)My favourite Buffy kill is Caleb. She fights so hard and it's so brutal and then YES there's this moment of victory. But Angel is an amazing, heroic thing that she does.
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Date: 2016-09-16 01:09 am (UTC)I'm stereotypically female in that the relationships between characters engaging in violence is more important to me than the awesomeness of the violence itself. :)