itsnotmymind: (buffy 2)
 Since it came out the Joss Whedon is an unfaithful husband and an asshole boss, there has been no shortage of discussion about how this is reflect in his work, especially his most explicitly feminist work, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I've most often seen this discussed wrt Xander, and Buffy/Angel and Buffy/Spike (the latter two are a bit ironic since my understanding is Whedon didn't want vampire romances on the show)

 

But I what I haven't seen discussed is a small scene in season 7.

 

Conversations With Dead People is credited to Jane Espenson and Drew Goddard, but Joss Whedon wrote the scene between Buffy and the vampire therapist Holden. In this scene, Buffy confesses that she blames her father more than her mother for the divorce because, "I think he cheated."

 

I'm not entirely sure what to make of this, but I do look at it differently knowing it was written by a father who did, in fact, cheat.

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 I've seen it most recently with the controversy over Joss Whedon. A creative genius is defended for bad behavior on the grounds that geniuses are often "eccentric".

 

Now, I know that "eccentric behavior" in this context is actually a euphemism for "asshole behavior". But I want to take the word "eccentric" at face value for a moment.

 

When I was in my early twenties, I had a year that I look back on as my "Year of Depression". I spent almost an entire year in a funk. One thing I remember thinking, often, that because I wasn't some kind of genius, it wasn't OK for me to be weird, different, eccentric, etc. It's OK for geniuses to be like that - not the rest of  us. The rest of us are losers.

 

I have a much more positive opinion of myself now in all kinds of ways. But one thing I strongly believe now is that everyone has a right to be eccentric - not just geniuses. And if by "eccentric" you mean "acting like an asshole" - well, no one has a right to be like that, genius or otherwise.

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I've wanted to write a complete, coherent post on my opinion about the stuff that's come out against Joss Whedon, but that isn't working. My thoughts are just not complete and coherent. So here are some things I want to say:

First of all, Whedon is undoubtedly incredibly gifted. I remember when I was new to Buffy fandom, I read how many of the writers he worked with would have the experience of having written an episode, and Whedon having written ONE SCENE in that episode, and fans inevitably and unwittingly pointing to the scene Whedon wrote as their favorite.

I tried it out for myself. What was an episode that had one scene I particularly liked? I remembered the Buffy/Spike scene in Hell's Bells.

Guys, guess who wrote that scene?

Of course talent does not excuse bad behavior - and talent and bad behavior can coexist in the same person.

I will not be leaving Buffy fandom or any other Whedon fandoms. I might think twice before picking up a new Whedon fandom, but I'm not throwing out what I already have. As many others have pointed out, while Whedon was gifted, he hardly worked alone. Throwing out Whedon fandoms would mean throwing out not only his work but the work of those who are criticizing him, and many, many others.

However even if it was Whedon alone, I wouldn't be walking away from those fandoms. I still enjoy Alfred Hitchcock movies, after all. There's a man who, when quoted as saying "actors are cattle", publicly clarified it by saying what he really meant was "actors should be treated like cattle".

(I used to find that quote hilarious, but with all the discussion that's come up around Whedon's actions and mistreatment of actors in general, I'm less amused)

It's easier to swallow Hitchcock because he died such a long time ago. But frankly, it's going on twenty years since Buffy and Angel were on the air. It's over a decade since I watched them for the first time, and I watched them late. I can't take back that decade of fannishness - and I don't think I would if I could. I can be realistic about the kind of person Whedon turned out to be without letting go of that fannishness.

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May. 7th, 2018 09:07 am
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Before I saw any of Whedon's shows, when my only exposure to him was his run on the Astonishing X-Men comics (which didn't do much for me), I used to be really bothered and get defensive of him when I read some of the harsher feminist criticisms - not because I had any reason to think Joss Whedon was particularly bad or good at feminism, but because the nature and tone of the criticisms bothered me.

Yet once I actually became a fan of first Firefly and then Buffy, and concluded that Joss Whedon is a genius at television storytelling, I became quickly much more bothered by the Joss-is-my-master-he-can-do-no-wrong people (who I had been aware of before, but hadn't spared much thought or been bothered by). I think these days I've found a more happy medium between Whedon's critics and his supporters - but it still seems weird to me that becoming a fan of the guy led me to be more negative about his fans than I had been prior to being a fan of his work.

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