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Just wanted to point out a quote that I still love: "My point, which is usually yours, is that she should get somewhere safe and get back to a normal life."
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I am re-watching Supernatural season eight, and finished Southern Comfort.

There is a little moment I forgot. When Garth asks Dean how he got out of Purgatory, Sam turns to Dean with a huge, expectant smile on his face.

Sam's attitude towards Benny is very complicated. I once wrote a detailed essay on Tumblr about it, but then I deleted my Tumblr. However one thing that strikes me so far this time around is that Sam is pleased that Dean did something wrong. So pleased that I don't think he ever stops to think if what Dean did was actually that wrong.

At the end of the episode, Sam gives Dean an ultimatum: "I told you from the jump where I was coming from, why I didn't look for you. But you? You had secrets. You had Benny. And you got on your high and mighty, and you've been kicking me ever since you got back. But that's over. So move on, or I will." Prior to finding out about Benny, he was just taking crap from Dean. But now that it seems Dean has done something wrong, he feels he has a leg to stand on to tell Dean to stop giving him crap.
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Bear in mind that I have only watched SPN through the end of S10, so what I am speculating may have been entirely retconned.

The possibility of John as an alcoholic is first raised by Sam in the pilot. When Dean tells Sam their father is missing, Sam retorts, "So he's working overtime on a Miller Time shift. He'll stumble back in sooner or later."

A little more tequila and a little less demon hunting )
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1. In Provenance we learn some historical facts (or "facts"?): When a child died sometimes their favorite toy would be preserved in a glass case, and sometimes a doll's hair would be made from the hair of the child the doll belonged to. I'm assuming this is not true, and was simply invented for storytelling purposes? Or did SPN give us an actual history lesson there?

2. I must be getting tougher. When I first watched Supernatural, Bloody Mary and Provenance scared the hell out of me. Now they aren't so bad.

3. In Dead Man's Blood, Dean, for the first time, joins Sam in standing up to John (and is startled when John says he's right). The brothers' time hunting together seems to have changed him. And I realized: this is probably the first time Dean and Sam did any extensive hunting together, just the two of them. John left them alone a lot growing up, but they weren't hunting. In the pilot, Sam is surprised that John "let" twenty-six-year-old Dean hunt alone. So I think their hunts together in season one really are a first for the two of them.

4. In Devil's Trap, Dean figures out John is possessed because "John" wasn't mad at him for "wasting" a bullet to save Sam. Yet John himself did that same thing in Dead Man's Blood, used a bullet to save Sam. I'm not sure what to make of all that.

5. John was shot in the leg in Devil's Trap. I seem to recall him walking in In My Time of Dying. How did he manage that?
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I just finished watching Something Wicked This Way Comes.

1. So how did Cassie have Dean's number? In Phantom Traveler, we learn that Dean only had his current number for six months. Given how estranged they were, I have a hard time believing he contacted Cassie with his new number. So how was she able to contact him?

2. I feel like Hell House had the beginning of some interesting ideas about the reliability of eye witnesses and the power of rumors, and the internet affects rumors. But it doesn't really go anywhere. Instead there is a lot of making fun of Ed and Harry. Which, well, given how your average SPN fan is probably more like them than then like Sam and Dean - it makes the mockery kinda obnoxious.

3. I've said this before, but I will say it again: adult Sam was nearly killed by the shtriga. How on earth was kid Dean supposed to hold it off?
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1. In Home, Missouri has gotten a lot of criticism from Dean fans for being unkind to him and putting him down. I can definitely see where they are coming from - the line about Dean not being the "sharpest tool in the shed" was particularly uncalled for. Re-watching I'm wondering: why does she treat him that way? I have this idea that maybe he reminds her of someone she used to know.

I'm also thinking of her conversation with Sam near the end, when Sam wonders why his mother would have sacrificed and Missouri says, "Well, to protect her boys, of course." As far was we know, Missouri has no children, but this line makes me wonder what experiences, if any, she might have with the parent-child bond. Right now I'm going with the idea that she is infertile - that she wanted to be a mother, but was unable to conceive.

2. In Asylum, as in Wendigo, Sam and Dean let a civilian or civilians stay with them on the hunt because the civilian is concerned about a loved one (as Dean says in Wendigo: "Her brother's missing, Sam. She's not gonna just sit this out."). It's a contrast to Dean in particular's disapproving attitude towards Jo in No Exit. There are two significant differences here: Jo is out to be a hunter, not just concerned about a loved one in one hunt. Also, Jo has a mother who is vehemently opposed to her going on any hunt. Nonetheless, it's an interesting difference in attitude - especially since Jo is obviously more qualified than the civilians in Wendigo and Asylum.

I suspect it has to do with where Dean is in season one - thinking that questioning John makes one a bad son - versus questioning everything about John after his death in early season two.

3. Scarecrow is a big turning point episode for both brothers: Sam chooses his connection to Dean over his vengeance quest, while Dean sincerely gives his blessing for Sam to leave, admitting admiration. A far cry from Dead in the Water, when he pulled rank as the good son to convince Sam to go on a hunt.

I don't think it's a coincidence that this occurs right after Sam's possessed verbal and physical assault on Dean in Asylum. It's clear that Dean was not 100% convinced by Sam's claim he did not mean it. It just seems odd to me - that hearing Sam say such cruel things seems to have led to Dean being more open about his admiration for Sam's rebelliousness.
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I just finished re-watching Bugs, and have a few thoughts on the past few episodes:

1. I really hate hate HATE when fans use Sam not telling Dean about his visions as an example of Sam being dishonest. Honesty does not require telling your family member everything about yourself. Sam's little speech at the end of Bloody Mary is an excellent example of setting healthy boundaries. And when the visions finally do became relevant to Dean, in Home, Sam is pretty quick to tell him.

Have a secret != lying. Sam's treatment of Jessica is definitely an example of lying and withholding information that was relevant to her; his treatment of Dean in S1 is absolutely not.

2. Watching Skin in particular, it strikes me how Dean is really working Sam, persistently but never forcefully, trying to get Sam back to hunting permanently and the family back together.

3. Watching these episodes, it also strikes me how much both brothers respect their father. When Jerry on Phantom traveler say that having Sam and not John is an "even trade", Same replies, "Not by a long shot." Sam outright says he respected John in Bugs. Don't get me wrong, I'll never forgive John Winchester for Something Wicked - but it is clear in season one that John is a complex character and a complex father, something that sometimes gets lost in fandom and later season.
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1. The name of this episode is an odd one, seeing as there is no ghost.

2. I totally forgot about how demons flinch at the name of God ("Christo"). I don't think that was ever mentioned or used again after this episode.

3. Twice in this episode, the brothers explain to each other something they already know, just of the benefit of the viewers. Dean tells Sam what an EMF meter is, while Sam tells Dean what the name of God in Latin is.

Some fans were hard on Sam for making fun of Dean's homemade EMF meter, but I think part of why Sam reacts that way is because of Dean acting like Sam doesn't know what EMF reader is. Poor Sam and Dean don't know about the audience and our need for information.
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You know you have an unusual set of SPN season one icons when you have more female characters depicted than male. One thing I value about the first season of Supernatural is its strong one-shot characters, so I thought I would reflect that in the icons I create.

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Dead in the Water to Shadow )
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I wanted to write a bit of a defense of Sam/Amelia. A lot of fans like the ship, but a lot of fans make arguments against it that I strongly disagree with.

Amelia is far and away my favorite civilian Winchester love interest (bear in mind I have only seen through the end of S10). Jessica was a non-entity. Cassie and Lisa were much cooler in theory than in practice. But Amelia was an actual person, difficult and real.

When Amelia and Sam got together, they had both suffered a recent lost. Amelia's famous quote, "let us be messes together" is often seen as a summary of their relationship. For many people, this means their relationship is unhealthy, and not real. Essentially, the fact that both Sam and Amelia are messed up means they CAN'T have a relationship.

I disagree. People who in an unhealthy stage of their life can enter relationships, and the relationships are still real and genuine. Denying messed-up people relationships just isolates them. Sam and Amelia had a real connection that hardly solved all their problems, but was good for them in many ways.

Another common complaint is the fact that Sam didn't tell her about the supernatural, or his romantic history that involves a lot of deaths of his past partners.

I have mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, I detest it when people use it as an example of Sam being dishonest. Keeping secrets is not the same as being dishonest. In Torn and Frayed, it is clear that Amelia knows he is keeping secrets, and they are both upfront about it. He is not lying to her. People are allowed to have secrets

That said, Sam knows something Amelia doesn't: His secrets put in her in danger. I'm not just talking about his past love life, but also the fates of Katie and Adam, and what happened to Lisa and Ben. I do think Sam owed Amelia that information.
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There are many things I like about Supernatural season nine, but I don't like:

Castiel
Crowley
Metatron

And Crowley is the worst, because Sam and Dean leave him alive again and again and again, sometimes with no actual reason.

Gadreel is really awesome, though, so there's that.
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As anyone who is following this livejournal knows, I've been rewatching Supernatural season 9. I finished Bloodlines.

I've heard Bloodlines was supposed to be a pilot for a spin-off that never materialized. Presumably it was the poor response to the episode that led to the spin-off not happening. I can't say I'm surprise.

Problems with the episode )
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I'm still re-watching SPN season 9. I just finished The Purge. I have to say, Sam and Dean's conversations at the end of Sharp Teeth and The Purge don't make a lot of sense to me. It's clear that Sam is very upset about the Gadreel situation, but it is not clear what, specifically, he is most upset about. He seems to equate Dean tricking him into being possessed with Gadreel to Dean talking him out the trials - too very different things. The conversations are very strange, and not very well-written.

But - Jared Padalecki acts the hell out of it. It drives me crazy when people talk about how mean Sam is in these conversations, because just his face watching Dean at the end of Road Trip and at other points is so empathetic. He's upset with Dean, but he still sympathizes with Dean.

And I still think Dean suggested killing Maritza in The Purge for no other reason than to mess with Sam.
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I'm rewatching 9.06, Heaven Can't Wait, and this moment stuck out at me:

Dean finds Castiel working at a gas station store, and says to him: "This is not you, man. You are above this."

Um, Dean shops heavily at gas station stores. Who does he think works at them and keeps them up and running - inferior people?

It particularly startles be because I was very involved in SPN fandom in S9-S10, and I don't remember anyone pointing out this particular moment. As a Sam fan, I sometimes got tired of Dean fans who perceived Sam as classist and Dean not. This moment definitely shows that Dean can be classist with the best of them.
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Corollary to this:

Note that for her first hunt, Jo does not run off alone. Instead, she teams up with two experienced hunters who she trusts. That certainly looks to me like the best way to get from amateur to profession.

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